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Last Updated: 16 March 2005
von Hahn Family
Since my von Hahn family is so sketchy, I can only speculate and
introduce various von Hahn and Hahn families who migrated to Russia. The
only piece of evidence that we have that we are related is through an old
family story handed down through my great great grandfather Georg Hein b.
1807 who told his grandson, Ludwig Hein b. 1885 who then told me.
STORY: Evidently, when Napoleon entered Moscow in 1812, Georg Hein was living with his Hahn "cousins" . I'm not sure if their father was a general at the time or what his rank, but, Georg did refer to him as "the general". Anyway, he loved the Hahn home where they wore "caftans" [ robes], ate "glass appels" [the skin was so think one would see through it to the flesh of the apple which was very sweet] and there was no work to do but sit and let the servents do all the work. With him was his mother. At this time, his father was an officer and with Tsar Alexander I to whom he had pleged alliance after leaving Prussia which had signed a treaty with Napoleon, whom was called the "Anti-Christ". When the news came that the Russian troops were retreating into Moscow, there was great excitment because there was news that the Russains had defeated Napoleon at a place called "Borodino". But, the battle had been a draw and it was the Russians who were retreating and not the French. Soon, Napoleon was knocking at the Moscow city gates which were left wide open by the Russians who were leaving Moscow and retreating farther east. This had sent everyone in Moscow into a panick. Quickly, the Hahns and the Hein packed what they could and left Moscow. Georg remembered seeing the fire and smoke in the city as they left. Since the military had taken most of the horses and wagons to carry the wounded, they were left with only a few which pulled the heavily laden wagons and Georg, who was just 5 years old, was forced to walk next to his mother.
So, what have we learned about the von Hahn's. Only that they were "cousins" living in Moscow in 1812 and that the "cousins" father was in the military and at some point was or became a general of the Tsar's Army.
The following are possible Hahn or von Hahn families who lived in Moscow about this time period. Fortunately, one of the families has made a name for themselves through their military and the success of their wives who were authors. See Helen, nee von Hahn, Bl.
|von Hahn List|
Hahn, Countess __NN___von m. [von Hein].
Hahn, General Alexander Fyodorovich von . No marriage listed.
Hahn, General Alexis von m. 1813 Countess Elisabeth Maksimorva von Probsen. Hahn family migr. fr. from Mecklenberg. Issue. See family in more detail.
Hahn, Bernard von b. 10 June 1812 Kielkond....
Hahn, General Dmitriy Karlovich von, b. 1830 d. 1907 Founder and Commander General of he Russian Frontier-Guard Corps. Was adviser under three Romanov Emperors.
Hahn, Ernst von b. 2 Aug 1814 Arenburg/ Oesel d. 14 May 1874 St. Petersburg/ Russia
Hahn, Eugen ..... may have been from the Baltic. Served as President of the Welfare Committee from 1845 to 1848 which was part of the Russian Colonial Administration which started under General Inzow in 1818 when the New Russian Colonies of the Black Sea Colonists needed new govt. contol under Tsar Alexander I of Russia.
Hahn, Friedrich August von b. 1761 d. 1851, son of Johann August von Hahn, was State Councilor, St. Petersburg Post Director
Hahn, Gustav von.
Hahn-Hahn, Ida [sister to Alexis von Hahn]. Noted German author
Hahn, Johan August von b. about 1730 d. 1799 was granted a coat-of-arms by Catherine II "the Great" to whom he had been Privy Councilor and General-director of the St. Petersburg Post l postmaster.
Hahn, Karl von m. __NN__ Issue
Hahn, Karl von b. 25 Oct 1815 auf Moenmust/ Ksp. Kergel, Oesel d. 24 Jan 1881 Arensburg/ Oesel m. Helena Shukanow
Hahn, Leonhard von b. 1784 Lahhentagge d. 27 March 1832 Brest-Litowsk/ Russia m. 3 March 1811 Kergel / Ksp. Kergel, Oesel to Julie Karoline Wilhelmine von Hoyningen gen. Huene b. 15 Feb 1791 Heimar/ Istland d. 1870 Neukoewel/Ksp. Wolde. Oesel . . Leonhard's brothers were Rudolf, Bernard Eduard, Karl....
Hahn, Lydia Dmitriyevich von m. __NN__ de Zierkoff
Hahn, Otto Karl von, son of Johann August von Hahn, was recorded at the Nobility Genealogical Book of St. Petersburg Governorte and used the title of baron".
Hahn, Colonel Peter von m. Helena de Fadeyev b. 1813 d. 24 June 1842 Odessa, dau. of Andrey Fadeyev [Title was Civil Governor] and ____ [dau. of Pr. Dolgorakov [Notes: Helena wrote under the nom-de-plume "Zenaida R-va" which helped the public to be aware of women's suffrage....] Issue:
Hahn [Hane], Reimar was he Master of German Order from 1324 to 1328
Hahn, Rudolph von
Hahn, Sergey D. von b. 1860 d. 1914 President of Ithe Russian Imperial Bank, Deputy Minister of Trade and Industry
Hahn, Vera Petrovna m. Vladimir de Zhelihovksy
Hahn, Yevgeniy Fyodorovich von Hahn.
--More Information on some the von Hahn families in Russia--
Alexis Gustavovich von Hahn, General of the Tsar Army m.
1813 Countess Elisabeth Maksimorva von
Probsen. Hahn family
migr. fr. from Mecklenberg. Issue:
Ida Hahn-Hahn [sister to Alexis von Hahn]. Noted German author
Helena, nee de Fadeyev, Hahn's sister was Catharina Fadeyev who m. Yuli de Witte.
Alexis von Hahn was des. of the German Crusader Count von der Roetterstern* who was saved by the crow of a rooster and added to his name Hahn [German for rooster]. He was known thereafter as Count Hahn-Hahn von der Roetter
They beame Russian Orthodox.
See pictoral web site on family. with Helena, nee von Hahn Blavatsky, as the subject: http://www.theosophycanada.com/bios/HPB_Bio.htm
NOTE: Said to be des. of Counts Hahn von Rottenstern-Hahn of Mecklenburg. This family has not been found by modern genealogists. According to family tales their branch of von Rottenstern became known as Hahn when he was awaken b a roaster which saved is life from his enemy. Note: I have also seen the name Rottenstern and Rottenstein.
On Wikipedia today I found an additional form of Rottenstern. Is is Rothenstern which connnects this branch to te Oesel's Hahn family: Hahn genannt Rothenstern". And they may be connected to the Hennebergs of Franconia.
Wikipedia writes: >>Preseumed....conection between the Hahn family in Mecklenburg and the families in Courland and Oesel is a coventional explanation of their caot of arms being identical to one another and vertually identical to that of the descendants of Echard Hahn.
Echard I, also known my his Latin name "Eggehardus Gallus" was refered in 1230 records as being a councilor and knight of the Duke of Johann I of Mecklenburg.<<
Eugen von Hahn
Book: Catherine to Khruschev (A. Giesinger), p. 14 to 16: . . . .
p. 14 "The Black Sea colonists were relatively fortunate in the kind of men that were appointed to govern them. While the Volga colonists recall with gratitude only Alexius von Fresse, head of the Saratov Kontor from 1843 to 1858, the Black Sea Germans remember as benefactors among others, Samuel Kontenius, Ivan Insov, and Eugen von Hahn. Kontenius, who has been mentioned earlier, served as Oberrichter of the Kontor in Ekaterinoslav from 1800 to 1818, and then till his death in 1830 as advisor to General Insov, the first president of the rsorgekomite.
p. 15 His sympathetic handling of the problems of the colonization period contributed greatly to the successful establishment of the German Black Sea colonies. Ivan Insov, head of the Fuersorgekomite till 1845, the "eternal Insov," as the colonists called him, was sympathetic to colonist problems, but grew neglectful in his later years, to the detriment of the colonies under his jurisdiction. Eugen von Hahn, a Baltic German who became acting head of the Committee in 1841 to relieve Insov and succeeded him in 1845, was an exceptionally effective leader, who revitalized local government, promoted better farming practices, and initiated improvements in the school system. Along with Kontenius, Hahn holds a place of special honor in the tradition of the Black Sea colonists."
|Fyodor von Hahn m. __NN__ Issue:|
Gustav von Hahn m. ___NN___
NOTE: Family was said to have migr. from Mechlenburg in the 1700s.
Helena, nee von Hahn, Blavasky
b. 31 July 1831 (O.S.) and 11 Aug. 1831 (N.S.) m. 7 July 1849
in the State Office at Dzelalogli [n. Erivan / Caucasus, Georgria,
Russia] to Nikifor Vassilyevich Blavatsky [40 years old at marriage]
b. abt 1809. There was no issue to this marriage. Helena Blavatsky
became faous as the founder of the "Modern Theosophical Movement".
Granddaughter of Alexis von Hahn
More to be written on the founder of the "Modern Theosohical Movement".
http://www.theosophycanada.com/bios/HPB_Bio.htm This sources has photographs of Helena' s family. And is very interesting.
Colonel Peter von Hahn b. 1798 d. 1873,
son of Lieutenant-General Alexis Gustabovich von Hahn and
Countess Elizabeth Maksimovna von
Probsen,. m. Helena
de Fadeyev b. 1813 d. 24 June 1842
Odessa, dau. of Andrey Mihalovich de Fadeyev [Title was Civil Governor]
and Helena Pavlovna Dolgorakov [dau. of Pr.
Dolgorukov [Notes: Helena wrote under the nom-de-plume "Zenaida R-va"
which helped the public to be aware of women's suffrage....] Issue:
NOTES: Peter von Hahn was a Captain of Artillery and promoted to Colone.
Helena Andreyevna de Fadeyev b. 11/23 Jan 1814 Dolgorukov Esstate n. the village of Rzhishchevo, Province of Kiev. She was a published novelish and wrote: (1) THE IDEAL, (2) UTBALLA, (3) JELALU'D, (4) THEOPHANIA ABBIADJIO, (5) MEDALLION, (6) LUBONKA, (7) A BOX AT THE ODESSA OPERA, (8) THE WORLD'S JUDGMENT, (9) A FRUITLESS GIFT. She wrote under the pseudonym of Zeneida R--va. She was ahead of her times in speaking and writing about women's rights to education and supported women's emancipation. And, she was the first woman in Russia to do so in her writings. She died of TB and the young age of 28 in 1842.
Parents of Helena de Fadeyev are:
Father: Andrey Mihalovich de Fadeyev b. 1789 d. 1867. His title was Privy Councillor when he died. refiously he had been Governor of the Province of Saratov. He also had been Director of the Department of State Lands in the Caucasus. He was a membor of the Council of the Viceroy of the Caucasus.
Mother: Helena Pavlovna Dolgorakov b. 1789 d. 1860 Helena desc. from the elder line of the Dolgorukov princes. She was the dau. of Paul Vassilyevich Dolgorukov (1755-1837) and Henrietta Adolfovna de Bandre-du-Plessis (d. 1812) of French Descent. Helena had been educated in history, natural science, archaelogy and numismatics [coins and medals). Added to this she was said to be a very good artists and spoke five languages "fluently".
Sister: Katherine Dolgorukov m. Yuliy de Witte. Their third son was Serguey de Wite, who became Prince Minister of Russia.
Uncle: General Rostislav Andreyevich de Fadeyev (1824-1884), who was the third son of Andrey de Fadeyev, was unmarried. His position had been Joint Secretary of State at the Ministry of the Interior. He was, also, an author of military strategy.
Aunt: Nadyezhda Andreyevna de Fadeyev (1829-1919), the fourth daughter of Andrey de Fadeyev, became a member of the Councile of the Theosophical Society and was unmarried. She lived for a time in Odessa, S. Russia
Vera Petrovna von Hahn b. 17/29 April 1835 Odessa,
S. Russia d. 5/18 May 1896 .m. Vladimir de
Zhelihovksy Vera, like her mother and
sister, was an author and her name appeared on stories in magazines and books.
She wrote: (1) PRINCE ILIKO, (2) YOUNG CAUCASIAN PRISIONER, (3) IN
A TATAR HANGOUT, (4) CAUCASIAN LEGENDS, (5) ADVENTURES, (6) STARS, (7) CHRISTMAS
STORIES FOR CHILDREN, (8) THE CZAR AND THE COSSACK (9) SPRING DAWN, (10)
YERMOLOV IN THE CAUCASUS, (11) HELENA ANDREYEVNA VON HAHN (a biographical
sketch of her mother) and (12) RUSSKAYA STARINA ("RUSSIAN OLD DAYS"), a novel.
She wrote for the Russian journal called "Rebus", titled "THE TRUTH
ABOUT H.P. BLAVATSKY", which is preserved in the Arvhies of the
theosophical society of adyar.
Vera and her husband Vladimir had two daughters. They were