Derschau m. von der Trenck
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Family of von der Derschau
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Maria Charlotte von Derschau
[Dirshau or Tczew or der Shau] , dau. of the Albrecht Frederick von Dershau,
President of the High Court at
Koenigsberg. As a widow she rem.
(2) Lt. Colonel Count
Lostange
who was in the Kiow Reg. of Curassiers and who joined the
Austrian army. She would live after her second marriage near Breslaw
[Breslau]in Elbing, East Prussia .... in 1747 where she
died. (Source: *Data found in
the book Konigsberger Stadtgeschiechter Families from the town of Koenigsberg.
Call number 934.8 B4sw nr. , Pages 14 and 15.
Prussian Cavalry Maj.-General Baron Christopher Ehrenreich von der Trenck and Lord of Scharlack, Schakulack and Meichen, Knight of the Military Order [Data from Douglas Parker's book HOHENZOLLERN, TRAGIC PRIVATE LIVES] One of their homes still stands, a brewery house which now is called Golden Star [Goldene Stern] Hotel in Haldensleben near Magdeburg....
Note: I did discover in the 1600s ther was a Frenchman named Marquis Louis de Lostanges who was the Seneschal of Quercy (King's representative) just before the Frenhe Revolution Evidently, he remained popular and did not lose his head or his fortune. The family resdence was after 1608 and it was "relingquished the chateau in 1874," according to the article found on http://www.chaeaudebeduer.com/history by Adan A, Brown, which holds the information of the Chateau. de Beduer, Today the Chateau serves as a lace for celebations such as wedding, birthdays, etc. etc. . The first building was built in 1098 by Seigneur of Beduer.of which only a "U" shape can still be seen.. The Chateau sits in a "charming village , in the departement of the Lot." in the village of Beduer. There are excellent photos of the Chateau and the ground. NOTE: There was a Henry, Marque de Lostange b. abt 1765 d. abt 1807 m. Adelaide of France b. 1767 d. 1825, dau. of Louis XV, King of France (1709-1774) and Madame de Vintimille (b. 1719) Source ancestry.com/Christopher Branch Family Tree/ owner: RickBanch500 Note: Have not found __NN__von Lostange, Count of ___. |
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Albrecht Frederick von Dershau
b. 1674 d. 19 Sept 1743 m. (1) 16 Feb 1706 to Maria
Dorothea Radewadt b. 7 Feb 1687 d. 20
July 1707, dau. of Heinrich Radewaldt m. (2) in 1711, to
Luise Christina von Negelein
b. 1696 d. 1736, dau.
of Christoph Aegid (Aegidius) von Negelein (b. 1668 d. 1742), who was the
Major of Koenigsberg. and Christine Falke.
Albrecht was Vice President of Oberhof Court [High
Court] to Konigsburg. He was a German poet and took part of the first
Prussian provincial government of East Frisia in Aurich (1751-1785).
HIs land holdings were Sans Garden , Tolkheim and
Suplitten. Issue:
NEGELEIN FAMILY Gen. 1 Luise Christina von Negelein b. 1696 d. 1736 m. Albrecht Friedrich von Derschau b. 1674 d. 1743 Gen. 2 Christoph Aegid von Negelein b. 1668 Nuernberg d. 1742 Koenigsberg m. Christine Falke Issue:
Gen. 3 Hanns von Negelein b. 22 Oct 1637 Neurenberg d. 10 April 1691 Nuernberg m. Magdalene Mangold b. 28 Jan 1673 Nuernberg / ___ Issue:
----------------- Notes: Found a Adam Nagel d. 1675 m. Anna Seyfried b. 1635 d. 1677
Pawell Nagel m. __NN___Issue:.
__NN__Nagel von Dirmstein m. __NN__ von Igstatt from Hattstein. |
| . Gen 3 |
Bernhard von Derschau b. 1634 d. 1676 m.
Anna
Horn / Hoern
b. 10 Sept 1648 d. 10 Sept
1704, dau. of Heinrich Horn and Maria
Treppenhauer
NOTE: von Stein Family data: There is a disagreement on who the mother of Bernhard was. ancestry.com ; Keuchel-v.d.Goltz Family Tree/ owner: falseRiver54 has Sophia von Stein b. 2 March 1612 d. 4 Aug 1653, dau. of Albrecht von Ssein and Sohia Gehlbeer and Anna Horn was Anna Hoern. If Sophia is correct, here is her lineage. See Gen. 4 - Reinhold von Derschau:
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Gen. 4
Reinhold von Derschau b. 1 April 1600 pss. in or n. Konigsberg , Prussia d. 5 April 1667 m. Agnes Paschke b. 21 Nov 1613 d. 24 March 1678, dau. of Bernhard Paschke
NOTE: There is a disagreement on who the mother of Albrect was. ancestry.com ; Keuchel-v.d.Goltz Family Tree/ owner: falseRiver54 has Sophia von Stein b. 2 March 1612 d. 4 Aug 1653, dau. of Albrecht von Stein and Sohia Gehlbeer. NOTE: von Stein Family data: There is a disagreement on who the mother of Benard b. 1634 was. ancestry.com ; Keuchel-v.d.Goltz Family Tree/ owner: falseRiver54 has Sophia von Stein b. 2 March 1612 d. 4 Aug 1653, dau. of Albrecht von Ssein and Sohia Gehlbeer and Anna Horn was Anna Hoern. If Sophia is correct, here is her lineage: Gen. 1 Sophia von Stein b. 2 March 1612 d. 4 Aug 1653 Gen. 2 Albrecht von Stein m. Sophia Gehlbeer Gen. 3 Paul von Stein Petraeus b. ___ d. 1584 Koenigsberg / Prussia m. Regina Keuter d. 14 March 1599, dau. of Jacob Keuter Gen. 4 Jakob von Stein Note: When I look at the dates of Anges Paschke b. 1612 d. 1653 and Sophia von Sstein b. 1612 d. 1653, it would appear that Sophia is the mother of Bernhard. BUT, was Reinhold ever married to Sophia?? I do not have the records. The majority do not have him married twice. |
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Gen. 5
Benhardt von Derschau b. 25 May 1560 d. 23 Aug 1632 m. Ursula Boye b. 10 / 18 Oct 1561 d. 4 Dec. 1645, dau. of Henning Boye |
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Gen. 6
Bernhard von Dershcau b. __ d. 1591 m. Anna Fahrenheit, dau. of Bernhard Fahrenheit |
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Gen. 7
Benhardt von Derschau m. 1510 Katharina Brandes, dau. of __NN__ |
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Gen. 8
Nikolaus von Derschau m. 1476 to Sara Brandes, dau. of __NN__ |
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Gen. 9
Hermann von Derschau |
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The name Derszewo pops up in documents ca. 1200.
Derszewo was a "feudal lord".
Note: the Polish city of Tczew (Derschau in German) is on the Vistula River in Eastern Pomerania, Kociewie Dst., in northern Poland.In 1198 the Pomerian Duke Grzymislaw gave the land to the Knights Hospitaller. About 1200 the Duke of Pomerania Sambor I built a fortress n. Derszewo Estate. The name Derszewo pops up in documents ca. 1200. Derszewo / Derslaw was a "feudal lord". By 1320 the area was known as Tczew and Derschau, which is German. In 1260 Derschau was purcahsed by Heinrich von Plotzke of the Teutonic Kings followng the Treaty of Soldin in 1309. The town was rebuilt and granted the Kulm law by Winrich von Kniprode. 1434 the Hussites burnd down the town. The town was transferred to the Teutonic Order and created part of the Polish Prov. of Royal Prussia. During the Protestant Reformation, which started in ca. 1517, he town of Derschau's residence converted to Lutheranism. In 1626 the town was occupied by the Swedish King Gustav II, Adolf, who encamped his troops during his invaion in the Polish-Swedish Wars. In 1772 Prussia regained "Dirschau" and it became part of the new Pronce of West Prussia. Napoleon's troops occupied Derscau under General Jan Henryk Dabrowski in 1807. And, so , it became part of the German Empiere in 1871. NOTE: on 30 March 1773 Frederick "the Great, King of Prussia established a village called Derschau. A forrester Burich Bolko cleared the land and Heide Duerr created the new settlement . The villagers came from Hesse, Wuerttemberg , Thuringia, Ausria and Poland. Each colonists was given 12 acres of arable land, 4 acres of medaow and an acre of garden and pasture. Prestnly known as Sauchy Bor Derschau, in the municipality of Chrzastowice in powiat Opele in Opole Volvodeship in Upper Silesia, Poland..
[NOTE: This family was in Konigsburg. See Gen. 5 - Reinhold von Derschau b. 1 Aril 1600 Konigsberg , Prussia ] |
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Sebastian von der Trenck b. 1620 had married Anna von Roder, who's family may be voiced in Amalie Albertine von Derschau marriage. |
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On ancestry.com / Heinz' family/ owner: Heinz-Juergen Kronberg I
found the following:
Anna Amalie Albertine von Derschau b. 1728 d. 26 March 1764, dau. of __NN__ m. Johann (Ernst) Erhard von Roeder b. 5 June 1707 d. 13 Oct 1791, son of Dietrich von Roeder (b. 1681 d. 1763) and Louise Charlotte von Graevenitz (. 1749) (Additional source: ancestry.com / Familie Krakbe III / owner: krabbepeter) Issue:
[Note: HISTORY OF FRIEDRICH II. OF PRUSSIA, CALLED FREDERICK THE GREAT by Thomas Caarlyle Chapter II from page 215 History of the Seven-Years War...... p. 217: "...Wedell, Lieutenant-General, had lately recommended himself to the royal mind by actons of a prompt daring." p. 219: "Wedell arrived Sunday evening, 22 July; had crossed Oder at Tschischerzig, -- some say by Crossen Bridge; no matter which. Dohna's Cap is some thirty miles west of Crossen, in a near the small Town called Zuellichau, where his headquarter is. In those peaty Countries , on the right, which is thereabouts the northern (noteastern), bank of Oder; between the Oder and the Warta; some sevent miles outh-by-east of Landsberg, and perhaps as far southwest of Posen: thither has Dohna noq got with his futile manoeuvrings. Soltikof, drawn up amid scrubby woods and sluggish intricate brooks, is about a mile to east of him." Leondias Wedell....is dead long since, fell in the Battle of Sohr, soon after the heroic feat of Ziethen's and his at Elbe-Teinitz (Defence of Elbe against an Army); this is Leonidas's elder Brother. Friedrich had observed his fiery ways on the day of Leuthen... Wedell's Dictatorship began this Sunday towards sunset; and lasted--in practical fact, it lasted one day."] p. 220, Chapter "Friedrich [Frederick II, "the Great"] like to Be Overwhelmed, Book XIX, July, 1759". Goes on to talk about "Dictator Wedell fights his Battle (Monday, 23 July 1759), without Success". Evidendtly this is the about the Battle of Zuellichau. |
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Source: ancestry.com / Stong-Raczynski Family Tree / Owner: Robert
Srong
Gen. 1 Dorothea Albertain Louise von Ostau b. 1752 m. Ernst Christoph von Witten b. 1740 d. 1801, son of Georg Christopher von Witted (b. __ d. 1757) and Agatha Louisa von Roenne Gen. 2 Louisa Juliana von Derschau m. Fabian Albrecht von Ostau b. 1686 d. 1742, son of Friedrich von Ostau (b. 1652 d. 1700) and Helene Marie von Wallenrodt (b. __ d. 1736) Gen. 3 Albrecht Friedrich von Derschau b. 1674 d. 1743 m. Luise Christina von Negelein b. 1696 d. 1736, dau. of Christoph Aegid von Negelein (b. 1668 d. 1742) and Christine Falke Gen. 4 Bernhard von Derschau b. 1634 d. 1676 m. Anna Horn b. 10 Sept 1648 d. 10 Sept 1704, dau. of Heinrich Horn and Maria Trepenhauer Gen. 5 Reinhold von Derschau b. 1 April 1600 Konigsberg , Prussia d. 5 April 1667 m. Agnes Paschke b. 21 Nov 1613 d. 24 March 1678, dau. of Bernhard Paschke Gen. 6 Benhardt von Derschau b. 25 May 1560 d. 23 Aug 1632 m. Ursula Boye b. 10 Oct 1561 d. 4 Dec. 1645, dau. of Henning Boye Gen. 6 Bernhard von Dershcau b. __ d. 1591 m. Anna Fahrenheit, dau. of Bernhard Fahrenheit Gen. 7 Benhardt von Derschau m. 1510 Katharina Brandes, dau. of __NN__ Gen. 8 Nikolaus von Derschau m. 1476 to Sara Brandes, dau. of __NN__ Gen. 9 Hermann von Derschau
[NOTE: This family was in Konigsburg. See Gen. 5 - Reinhold von Derschau b. 1 Aril 1600 Konigsberg , Prussia ] |
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"Tabagie Prussia p. 118" Chap. V
A Smoking-room,--with wooden furniture, we can suppose,--in each of his Majest's royal Palaces, was set apart for this evening service, and became the Tabagie of his Majesty. A Tabagie-room in the Berlin Schloss, another in the Potsdar, if the cicerone had any knowlede, could still be pointed out: --but the Tobacco-pipes that are shown as Friederich Wilhelm's in the Kunstkammer or Museum of Berlin, pipes whoch no rational smoker, not compelled to it, would have used, awaken just dougt as to the cicerones; and you lave the Locality of the Tabagie a thing conjectural. In summer season, at Potsdam and in country situations, Tabaie could be held under a tent: we expressly known, his Jamesty held Tabagie at Wusterhaussen nightly on the Steps of the big Fountain, in the Outer Court there. Issuing from Wusterhusen Schloss, and its little clipped lindens, by the western side; passing the sentries, bridge and black ditch, with live Prussian eagles, vicious black bears, you come upon the royal abagie of Wuesterhausen; coverd by an awning. I should think; sending forth its bits of smoke-clouds, and its hum of huan talk, into the wide free Desert round. Any room that was large enough, had had height of ceiling, and air-cuculation and no cloth-furniture would do: and in each Palace is one, or more than one, that has been fixed upon and fitted out for that object. A high large Room, as the Engravings (mostly worthless) give it us: contented saturnine human figures, a dozen or so of them, sitting round a large long Table, furnished for the occasion; long Dutch pipe in the mouth of each man' uppoes of knaster easily accessible; small pan of burning peat, n the Dutch fashion (sandy native charcoal, which burns (p. 119) slowly without smoek), is at your left hand; at your right a jug, which I find to consist of excellent thin bitter beer. Other costlier materials for drinking, if you want such, are not beyond reach. On side-tables stand wholesome cold-meas, royal rounds of beef not wanting, with bread thinkly sliced and buttered: in a rustic but nea abundant way, such innocent accommodations, narcotic or nutritious, gaseous fluid and solid, as human nature, bent on contemplation and evening lounge, can require. Perfect equalit is to be the rule; no rising, or notice taken, when anybody enters or leaves. Let the entering man take his place and pipe, withou obligatory remarks; if he cannot smoke, which is Seckendorf's case for instance, let him at least affect to do so, and not ruffle the established stream of things. And so, Puff, soly pff!__ and any comfortabl e speech that is in you; or none, if you authentically have not any. Old offical gentlemen, military most part; Grumkov, Derschau, Old Dessauer (when at hand), Seckendorf, old General Flans (rugged Platt-Deutsch specimen, capable of localdille or backgammon, capable of rough slashes of sarcasm when he opens his old beard speech): these, and the like of these, intimate confidants of the King, men who could speak a little, or who could be socially silent otherwise, -- seem to have been the staple of the Institution. Strangers of mark who happened to be passing, were occasional guests; Ginckel the Duch Ambassador, through foreigh lie Seckendorf, was well seen there; garrulous Poellnitz, who has wandered over all the world, had a standing invitation. Kings, high rinces on visit, were sure to have the honour. The Crown-Prince, naow and faterwards, was often present; oftener than he liked--in such an atmosphere, in such an element. 'The little 'Princes were all wont to come in," doffing their bits of triangular hats, 'and di Paa goodnight. One of the old Generals ' would sometimes put them through their exercies; and the' little creatures were unwilling to got away to bed.' In such Assemblage, when busiess of importance, foreigh or domestic, was not occcupying the royal thoughts, --the Talk, we can believe, was rambling and multifarious: the day's hunting, if at Wusterhausen; he day's news, if at Berlin or Potsdam; old reminiscences, too. I can fancy, turning up, and talk, even in Seckendor's own time, about Siege of Menin (where [page120] your Majesty first did me the honour of some notice), Siege of Stralsalund, and--duly on September 11th at least-- Malplaqluet, and Marlbourough and Eugene; what Marlborough said, looked; and espeecially Lottum, late Feldmarschall Lottum, and how the Prussian Infrantry held firm, like a wall of rocks, when the horse were swept away, --rocks hightly volcanic, and capable of rolling forward too; and "how a certain Admutant" (Derschau smokes harder and blushes brown) "Snached poor Tettau on his back, bleeding to death, admid the iron whirlwinds, and brought him out of shot-range." -- "Hm, na, such a Day, that, Herr Feldzegmesiter, as we shall not see again till the Last of the Days!" History of Friedrich II, of Prussia by Thomas Carlyle |
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SESSION OF TABACCO-PARLIAMENT, 6th DECEMBER, 1732
Grumkow, shattered into "headache" by this Session, write Report of it to Seckendorf before going to bed. Look reader, into one f the strangest Political Establishments; and how a stange Majesty comprts himself there, directly after wuch proposal from Vienna to marry with England still!--"Schwerin" is incidentally in from Frankfurt-on-Oder, where his Regiment and business usually lie: the other Honorable Members we sufficiently know. Majesty has been a little out of healthy lately; perceptily worse the last two days. "Syberg" is a Gold-cook (Alchemical gentleman, of a very hight professions), came to Berlin sime timeago; whom is Majesty, after due investigation, took the liberty to hang. [Forster, iii.126.] eaders can now understand what speacker Grulmkow writes, and despatches by his lackey, in such haste:-- "Inever saw such a scene as this evening. Derschau, Schwein, Buddenbrock, Rochow, Flanz were present. We had been about an hour in the Red Room [languidly oding our tobacco off and oen], when he [the King] had us shifted into the Little Room; dorve out the servants; and cried, looking fixedly at me: 'No, I cannot endure it anylogner! ES STOSSET MIR DAS HERZ AB,' cried he, breaking into German; 'It crushes the heart out of me; to make me do a it of scoundrelism, me, me! I say; no, never! Those damned intrigues; may the Devil take them!-- "EGO (Grumkow). 'Of course, I know of nothing. But I do no comprehend your Majesty's inquietude, coming thus on the sudden, after our common indifferent mood.' "King. 'What, make me a villain! I will tell it right out. Certain damned schoundrels have been about betraying me. Peope that s hould have knonwed me better,' [next page], 'have been trying to lead me into a dishororable scrap'-- (Here I caled in the hounds, JE ROPIS LES CHIENS,' reports Grumkov, "for he was going to blab everything; I interrupted, saying):-- "EGO. 'But, your Majesty, what is it ruffles you so? I know not what you talk of. Your Majesty has honorable people about you; and the man wh lets himself be employed in things against your Majesty must be a traitor.' "King. 'Yes, JA, Ja. I will do things that will surprise them. I--' Farther down the page. "...as I was somewhat confused; and anxious, above all, to keep him from exploding with the secret, I cannot remember eerthing, But Dershcau, who was more at his ease, will be able to give you a full account. He [the King] said more than once: 'THIS was his sichness; the thing that ailed him, this: it gnawes his heart, and would be the death of him!' He certaily did not affect; he was in a very convulsive condition. [JARNI-BLEU, here is a piece of work, Herr Seckendorf!] -- Adieu, I have a headach." Whereupon to bed."
OF PRUSSIA VOLUME IX: LAST STAGE OF FRIEDRICH'S APPRENT by Thomas Carlyle. |
von Derschau List
#1
Major General and Chief of the Fusilier Regiment No. 47, Karl Friedrich von Dershau b. 1699 d, 5 Ag 1753, son of Bernard von Derschau (b. 1668 d. 5 Aug 1753. Owner of the Woninenheim (Woninkaim) and Mamlack estates. Married Johann Mamria Elisabeth, the daughter of Ernst Ludwig of Herrengrosserstedt, who was the herediatry Marschal of the Electorate of Saxony and Thurigia General Sergeant, and superintendent (religious order) of the county of Henneberg. Issue:
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Accrding to the books, von Derschu is inscribed in the reister of the nobility of Curland, 1682. Members of this family were qualified with the title of baron in official acts since 1813. Also, held the title in Russia . Applied and on the 28 Feb 1862 it was confiermed 16 Sept 1854.
Christoph
Friedrich von Derschau (1714-1799)