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Barbara Wetzler
  • b. 17 June 1848 Neudorf / Od. S. Russia [#1882641/2  344 126]
  • d. bef. 1901 poss Neudorf, / Odessa S. Russia

m  (1).10 Nov 1868 Glueckstal [#1884092-1-467-019]   to

J. [Johann] Georg Dockter  ["Shak Abbel"]

  • b. 19 Oct 1845 Neudorf / Odessa, S. Russia
  • d.16 Oct 1925 Streeter, ND, USA
  • rem. about 1901 (2) to widow Johann, nee Rott, Hoffer [mother of Friederick Hoffer II, husband of Katharina Dockter.       Issue: [All born in or near Neudorf / Odessa, S. Russia]
  1. Gottlieb  Dockter b.20 Aug 1869 Neudorf (1884110-3-488-043 ) m. 1924  in Carrington, ND to Magdalena Bonnet , dau. of Magd., nee Dockter, and  Johan Bonnet] b. 17 Nov 1870
  2. Christian  Dockter b. 20 Dec 1870 Neudorf 1884111-2-541-093
  3. Johan Georg  Dockter b.  b. 13 May 1874  Neudorf (1884120-1-627-035) d. 30 May 1932 Tuttle, ND, USA  m.  9 Nov 1906 Tuttle, ND to Katharine Feigert [Feiker] who had settled in Martin, ND as a little girl.  They built a sod house abt 11 miles from Tuttle. Issue:
    • Benjaim Dockter of Mandan, ND
    • five died young
    • Gustav Dockter of Sacrmaento, CA
    • Ida Dockter m. Fred Mertz of Steele, ND
    • Harold Dockter of Mandan, ND
  4. Margaretha  Dockter b. 15 Jan 1876 Neudorf 1884070-1-633-007
  5. Katrina [Katharina] Dockter  b. 4 Feb 1878 Neudorf 1895624-1-634-014 m. Friedrich Hoffer
    • Kath. D. Katrina, nee Dockter, Hoffer Generation List
  6. Jakob Dockter b. 26 Aug 1882 Neudorf 1895610-1-150-055
  7. stillborn son  b. 14 Oct 1884 1895616-3-161-067
  8. Madgalena  Dockter b. 21 Nov 1885 Neudorf 1897694-2-157-091
  9. Magdalena Dockter  b. 13 Nov 1887 m. Kost
  10. Jacob  Dockter  b. 9 Oct 1889 d. 16 May 1932 Jamestown, ND, USA m. Lydia Freuh
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Melchoir Wetzler
  • b.  12 May 1809 Russia Neudorf / Od.S.Russia 
  • d.  3 Oct 1867 Neudorf/ Od. S. Russia
  • m. (1) bef 1832 to Catharina Dorothea Schmierer b. 19 May 1811 Erdmannshausen , Wu  d. 26 Dec 1846 Glueckstal / Od. S. Russia [#1882638 1 126 135  was 35 years 7months 7 days at death], dau. of Johann Jacob Schmierer (b. 13 Dec 1777 Rietenau / ___)
  • m. (2) 15 April 1847 Glueckstal / Od. S. Russia

Christina Kammerer [poss dau. of Jakob Kammerer]

  • b. about 1816
  • d.
  • Issue:
    1. Barbara Wetzler b. 17 June 1848 Neudorf / Od. S. Russia  d.  bef. 1901 poss Neudorf, / Odessa S. Russia m  (1).10 Nov 1868 Glueckstal [#1884091-1-467-019]  to Georg Dockter  ["Shak Abbel"]15 Oct 1845 Neudorf / Odessa, S. Russiad.16 Oct 1925 Streeter, ND, USA. Issue:  See Gen. 1
    2. Sophia Wetzler b. 5 March 1850 Glueckstal / Od. S. Russia [#i882651 3 308 053] m. 11 Nov 1869 to Friedrich Burkart
    3. Carolina Wetzler b. 3 March 1851 Glueckstal / Od. S. Russia [#1883181 1 327 055] d. 7 Nov 1854 [age 3 years, 8 months, 4 days]
    4. Rosina Wetzler b. 12 Dec 1853 Neudorf / Od. S. Russia [#1883188 2 418 258] d. 9 Nov 1878 m. bef 1874 to Johann Lippert
    5. Margaretha Wetzler b. 3 March 1856 Neudorf / Od. S. Russia  [#1884101 1 411 015] d. 30 Dec 1859 [9 months, 27 days]
    6. Katharina Wetzler b. 8 Oct 1857 Neudorf / Od. S. Russia  [#1884103 2 721 088]
    7. Johann Wetzler b. 28 Jan 1860 Neudorf / Od. S. Russia  [#1884080 1 490 008 
Melchoir Wetzler and first wife's, Katharina  [Catharinia] Dorothea Schmierer b. 19 May 1811 Erdmannhausen /  ___ d. 26 Dec 1846 Neudorf/ Od. S. Russia
  • Issue:
    1. Christian Wetzler b. 1832  m. 10 Nov 1853 Glueckstal / Od. S. Russia to Elisabeth Lud Issue:
      • Christian Wetzler b. 5 Feb 1855 Neudorf d. 16 Feb 1855
      • Chistina Rosina Wetzler b. 19 April 1856 Glueckstal m. 7 Feb 1878 to Gottlieb Schauer
      • Magdalena Wetzler b. 10 Jan 1858
      • Catharina Wetzler b. 8 Nov 1859 Neudorf
      • Christina Wetzler b. 6 Jan 1862 Klein Neudorf
      • Elisabetha Wetzler b. 3 oct 1863 Klein Neudorf
      • Jakob Wetzler b. 29 Aug 1881 Neudorf
    2. Margaretha Sophia Wetzler  b. 12 May 1834 Neudorf d. 26 Aug 1834
    3. Melchior Johannn Wetzler b. 11 Jan 1836 Neudorf  #1882646/2 202 2 m. 11 Nov 1858 Gluecsktal/ Od. S. Russia to Christina Dockter Issue:
      • Christina Wetzler b. 20 Sept 1859 Neudorf
      • Jakob Wetzler b. 13 Nov 1864 Neudorf
      • Eva Wetzler b. 21 Jan 1869 Neudorf
      • Katharina Maria Wetzler b. 17 Sept 1874 d. 17 May 1877 Neudorf
    4. Christina Wetzler b. 6 Oct 1838 Cassel (Kassel) m. 3 Nov 1859 Glueckstal / Od. S. Russia to Philipp Bender
    5. (twin) still born son b. 3 Jan 1841 Neudorf
    6. (twin) Johann Wetzler  b. 3 Jan 1841 Neudorf
    7. Jacob Wetzler b. 8 April 1842 Neudorf m. bef 1867 to Katharina Dockter Issue:
      • Jacob Wetzler b. 18 Jan 1867 d. 19 April 1867 Neudorf
      • Jakob Wetzler b. 25 April 1868 d. 7 May 1868 Neudorf
      • Johann Wetzler b. 14 May 1869 Neudorf
      • Eva Wetzler b. 23 Oct 1871 d. 13 Nov 1871 Neudorf
      • Katharina Christina Wetzler b. 4 May 1875 Neudorf
      • Christina Wetzler b. 26 Oct 1877 Neudorf
      • Friedrich Wetzler b. 6 Dec 1882 Neudorf
    8. Johann Joseph Wetzler  b. 12 Dec 1844 Neudorf d/ 1 Feb 1846 Glueckstal / Od. S. Russia [#1882638 1 118 194 (1 year, 1 month, 19 days, son of Melchoir Wetzler)
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Melchoir  Johann [Johann Melchior] Wetzler
  • b. 5 Feb. 1771 Gortringen [Gaertringen / Boblingen, Wu]
  • d. 3 Dec 1843 Neudorf / Od. S. Russia/ Od. S. Russia  #1882594-3-096-193 was 72 years, 9 months, 26 days old at death, b. in Gortingen/____ [Germany]
  • m. (3) April 1847 Glueckstal / Od. S. Russia to Christina Weib
  • m. (2) ?? widow Maria, nee ____, Wetzler
  • m. (1)    to

Sophia Friedricka  __NN___ b. 15 Nov 1778 Steinfelz / _____ d.____

  • Issue:
    1. Christian Wetzler, 26 , b. abt 1793 with wife Elisabeth, 21
      • Rosine, 2
      • Magdalene 1/2
    2. Anna Christina Wetzler b. 7 Oct 1800 Hakenfeld / ___, Poland
    3. Melchoir Wetzler, 22 b. 12 May 1809 Neudorf
    4. Christine Wetzler, 20
    5. Johann Christian Wetzler b. 1812 Neudorf
    6. Jakob , Wetzler 16
    7. Barbara Wetzler, 10
    8. Sophie Wetzler, 8,
    9. Rosine Wetzler, 4
    10. Katarina Wetzler,  1/2
? Issue listed in Harold Ehrman's list::

  1. Anna Christina Wetzler b. 7 Oct 1800 Hakenfeld / Poland m. Feb 1820 to Jacob Grosshans
  2. Gen. 2 - Melchoir Wetzler  b.  12 May 1809 Russia Neudorf / Od.S.Russia d.  3 Oct 1867 Neudorf/ Od. S. Russia m. (2) Christina Kammerer
  3. [brother??]Johann Christian Wetzler b. abt 1812 m. 24 oct 1833 Glueckstal / Od. Russia to Christina Morlock
    • Dorothea Wetzler [N55], b. 16 February 1799 in Heilmannswald, Poland, m. Johannes Adam Schmidt, bef. 1833, d. 16 March 1850
    • Anna Wetzler [N55], b. ca. 1807 in Warschau/Poland, m. Konrad Walther, February 1826
 Since many of the colonists in Neudorf were Franconians,  Sophia may have been born in Steinfeld / Main-Spessart Dist,  in the Lower Fraconian area, which is presently in Bavaria, Germany.  The inhabitants were called "Steefider Russe".  There is a Julius Echter mention in this villages history
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____ Wetzler / Wetzlar
  • b. abt 1736 [**]
  • d. bef. census of 1816 in or n. Neudorf / Od. S. Russia
  • m.  to

widow Maria, nee ____ , Wetzler (listed as widow in 1816 census)

  • b. 1736 (80 yrs in 1816 census)
  • d.
  • Issue:
    1. Melchior, 49 [b. abt 1767]  m. (2?)  Christine, 30 [b. abt 1786]
    2. Christian, 46 , b. abt 1770 m. Christine, 45 Issue:
      • Christian, 17
      • Johann, 9  
      • Melchior, 1 1/2,  [**b. poss 1809 d. poss.  3 Oct 1867 Neudorf/ Od. S. Russia [age at death was 58 years]
    3. Johann Melchior Wetzler b. 5 Feb 1771 Gortringen [Gaertringen / Boblingen, Wu]  d. 3 Dec 1843 Neudorf/ Od., S. Russia m. Sophia Friedricka __NN__ b. abt 1771

**If the dates were given during migration in 1808 and the above dates are not using the year 1816 then the estimated dates of births would be off by  8 years.

Johann [Johann Melchoir or Melchior Johann] Wetzler migr.  from Alsace through Kuhlhausen  / Wu. in 1808 to Lemberg pm 2.11.1808 [day, month/year] to Brody on 6.11.1808 then Russia  His wife was Christina ... and with them were their children and ......  See Stumpp p. 1005, PL VI: 108  [list of passport information]. With them were the following:
  • #106 Jakob Dietrich, age 29 from Wuerttembergishen
  • #107 Johann Waltz, age 47 from Wurttemberg with wife Christina Barbara ....

Just three days later, 9.11.1808,  the following familes were, also, in Brody. They were:

  • #96 Jakob Kamerer, age 30 with his wife Christina ...and children

Also, should mention the following listed as being in Brody on 7.11.1808

  • #99 Johann Ginger, age 35 from Kuehlhausen  to Neudorf/Od. [Stumpp p 278] who with his wife ended up in Bergdorf/ Od. in 1809 . The Bergdorf rec. show her from Kaltental / Stuttgart-Wu ...

Could Kuehlhausen be by Kathenhausen / Hagenau, Alsace?

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*Additions in navy are from David's rootsancestry/ancestry.com
SURNAME WETZLAR -When our ancestors took a surname,  they may have taken a place name.  There is a city called Wetzlar which is presently in the Lahn-Dill-Kreis (Dist.), Hesse, Germany. No one knows when the first human settlement occured.  It has been established that the "Bankeramiker", people who are from what is called the Linear Pottery culture, which the experts have given the time line as 5500-4500 BC, lived in this area.  People ;oved  here through the Romans times under Emperor Augustus (27 BC-14 AD) to the time a Celtic or Franki  named the village "Wetzlar in the 200s.  The Frankonian Count Gebhard ruled the area.  His son was King Conrad I of East Francia. It is said in 897 the Duke of Lorraine consecrated a Church of the Savior  in Wetzlar.  Frederick I "Barbarossa, House of Hohenstaufen (1152-1190) , made Wetzler a Imperial Free City.  The main commerical road passed through Wetzlar.  The town developed the production of iron, wool and tanning.  A false emperor known as "Tile Kolup (Dietrich Holzschuh), claimed the title and the citizens of Wetzlar captured him and his sentence was caried out under the order the the rightful king Rudolph I  (r.1271-1291).  He was burned at the statke.   By 1250 the wooden fence had been replaced with stone and became a fortifcation.  In the 1300s the population was about 6,000.  Due to various feuds the city fell into debt and in 1387 was incorporated into the Swabian League of Towns.  The Thirty Years' War (1618 - 1648) caused the town's decline of the population to a mere 1,500.  In 1689 the Holy Roman Emprie's highest court "Reichskammergericht" was moved from Speyer , which had been devastasted by the French, to Wetzlar. Somehow,  one of our ancestors, a man from Wetzlar, survied the battles, the famine, the diseases and the religious strife because one of his descendant's wife ended up in Gaertringen / Boblingen, Wu giving birth in Feb. of 1771.  I do not known when our family became Protestants but we know they were by 1771.

Research List on Wetzlers of Glueckstal and Neudorf/ Od. S. Russia

Kammerer Family  [relationship is noted in Stumpp book]

I.  Josef Kammerer*, 54,  b. abt 1762 poss  Wittershausen / Horb-Wu (Germany) , with wife Margarete  __NN__, 52, and Issue:
  1. Jakob, 27 . b/ abt. 1789, with wife Christine, 23 and Issue:
  2. Friedrich , 19
  3. Gottlieb, 10
  4. Karoline, 13
  5. Katharine, 7

II. Eberhard Kammerer*, 49, b. abt 1767, with his second wife Christine, 35, and children: 

  1. Peter, 24, b. abt. 1792, with wife Christine, 23 and children:
    • Christine , "ohne Altersangabe, gest. 1858"
    • Philipp , 5
    • Christine, 15
    • Margarete, 12
    • Katarina, 9
    • Karolina, 2
III. Jakob Kammerer*  [age not given]  b. 10 May 1872 (8)  fr Wittershausen / Horb-Wu (Germany) in 1804 to Poland then  to  Neudorf / Od  and in 1814 to Wittenberg/ Bess. He m. Christina Vogel.  [Source: Dybdahl/Trefz Famly Trees / LorraineJacobs89/ ancestory.com] Their   sons were 

    • Peter Joseph b. 29 Sept 1804 Wittershausen / n. Rottweil, Baden-Wuerttemberg  d. 21 March 1883 Neudorf  
  2. Matthaus (?twin) b. 1811
  3. Joh. Georg (?twin) b. 1811
  4. Eberhard b. 8.April.1808 in Grigoripol d. 15 May 1885 (77 yrs 1 month 7 days) Glueckstal / Od. S. Russia [#1897694 2 186 0125]
*Probably a brother to Eberhard Kammer

Research on Kammerer Family

Elizabeth, nee Kammerer, Leicht  b. abt 1813 d. 5 March 1881 Glueckstal / Od. S. Russiam. Johann Leicht

Philipp Kammerer (Schneider) migr. to Sarata / Bess.

LETTERS:

Wetzler Family
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In a message dated 3/24/09 9:38:52 AM, doris.batzler@gmx.de writes:

  Hallo to anybody, who wants to inform the Wetzler-family !

Surfing in Internet, I ?ve found an entry about Wetzler ,Joh. Melchior

and his children ,born in "Hakenfelde",Poland. The right name of the

southprussian colony is HAUGFELD, founded 1799 by my ancestors. If there

is any interest in more informations see"www. krotoschin.de", the

churchbookentry about the birth of the children of Wetzler and his wife

,widow Maihöfer (from Brittheim/Germany) in Haugfeld you can find in the

lutheran parish "Krotoschin" (today Krotoszyn) ,archiwum Panstwowe

Poznan, Poland.

Many greetings to america (?)

Martin Hauge(Haugfeld) from Karlsruhe, Germany

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Barbara Wetzler b. 17 June 1848 Neudorf / Od. S. Russia  d.  bef. 1901 poss Neudorf, / Odessa S. Russia m  (1).10 Nov 1868 Glueckstal [#1884091-1-467-019]  to Georg Dockter  ["Shak Abbel"]15 Oct 1845 Neudorf / Odessa, S. Russiad.16 Oct 1925 Streeter, ND, USA. Issue:  See Gen. 1

Sophia Wetzler b. 5 March 1850 Glueckstal / Od. S. Russia [#i882651 3 308 053] m. 11 Nov 1869 to Friedrich Burkart

Carolina Wetzler b. 3 March 1851 Glueckstal / Od. S. Russia [#1883181 1 327 055] d. 7 Nov 1854 [age 3 years, 8 months, 4 days]

Rosina Wetzler b. 12 Dec 1853 Neudorf / Od. S. Russia [#1883188 2 418 258] d. 9 Nov 1878 m. bef 1874 to Johann Lippert

Margaretha Wetzler b. 3 March 1856 Neudorf / Od. S. Russia  [#1884101 1 411 015] d. 30 Dec 1859 [9 months, 27 days]

Katharina Wetzler b. 8 Oct 1857 Neudorf / Od. S. Russia  [#1884103 2 721 088]

Johann Wetzler b. 28 Jan 1860 Neudorf / Od. S. Russia  [#1884080 1 490 008