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Trenkmann
Information about Trenckmann and Trenk families are from Tammy, nee Trenckman, Perry: Tammy.Trenkmann@fluor.com
The copy [in part] of the German document shows the family of Trenkmann in the year 1397 was part of the old family of von Trenkner, von der Trenck und von Trenck of Geachlecht under the title of "Trende and Besinnung der Tretruch....."
Tammy's family tree is believed to be the following:
Baron Friedrich von der Trenck m. ______Issue:
*Green=Data from Kurth Trenkmann:
Zindel Family
Franz Zindel b. 19 Aug 1811 Baden, Germany d. 23 oct 1878 m. 14 Dec 1853 St. Paul's Church, Williamsburg, NY, [cerifcate also found in Brooklyn, NY] to Elisabeth Schmalz b, 15 March 1821 Dalheim, Germany d. 1 Aug 1896 Issue:
Henry Zindel, Sr. may have been the brother of Franz Zindel. He was born in April of 1811 or 1812 in Baden, Germany d. 24 April 1892 New York, NY, USA His first wife was Josephine ______ b. 8 Nov 1857 Brooklyn, NY d. 28 Aprl 1875 Brooklyn, NY Issue:
Magdalena Zindel b. 1815-1816 Baden, German. Data found in 1880 census
John Zindel may have been the brother of Franz Zindel
Wihlemina Zindel was the second wife of August Zindel b. 27 Juy 1861 Brooklyn, ND d. 11 Feb 1917 Brooklyn, NY
Rosa (Rose) Zindel, sister of Wilhelmina and Josephine Zindel, dau. of Franz Zindel and Elisabeth b. 1869
Cooke Family
Andrew J. Cooke , father of Maude Cooke, by Feb 1852
Henrietta Cook, mother of Maude Cooke b. March 1854 NY
Maude Cooke b. 20 March 1884 Brooklyn m. Charles Trenkmann b. 9 Aug 1884, son of August Trenkmann and Wilhelmina ____ Maude would marry twice. The second time after 1934 to __ MacCord
Juergen Trenkmann's Family
Friedrich Trenkmann b. 12 Jan 1758 Wesenleben, Germany who was a Zimmmeister und Ortsennehhumer [Collector of Rent] m. Dorothea Jacobs b. 28 Sept 1758 Wesensleben. Issue:
Paul Trenkman's Des.
Paul Trenkmann b. abt 1600 m. Martha Gemeyer. Issue:
Data from Kurth Trenkmann:
(Source: rootsweb / Rolcke and Imroth relatives by Jochen Rolcke and Douglas Norman ParkerJ
Dietrich von der Trenck d. abt 1550 m. Anna von Tettau, dau. of Hans von Tettau and Barbara von Beerwald. Issue:
Anna von der Trenck m. Major-General of Russia Georg von Partein
RESEARCHING OTHER TRENCKS
Does Anyone Know Who These People Are?
On the internet I have found listed these names, however, before I could make any kind of communication the site was taken off the waves:
Graf Karl Albrecht v. Trenck acceded 1719 died 1760 with des. who inherited the titles as
1. Friedrich Leopold Gustav v. Trenck (1. Linie) d. 21 Oct 1907 and then his heir was in 1907
2.Victor Friedrich Leopold v. Trenck 1907-1922 who's heir was in 1922
3.Graf Andreas Gregor Karl Gustave v. Trenck (2.Linie) d. 23 Seot 1934 who's heir was
4. Graf Viktor Friedrich Leopold v. Trenck who's heir was/is ____?___
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TRENCK LIST
[See von der Trenck Below]
Anna Catharina TRENCK - Christening: 2 Feb 1800 Roemische Katholische, Aegidienberg, Rheinland, Preussen, S-LDS
Anna Gertrudis TRENCK - Christening: 9 Dec 1801 Roemische Katholische, Aegidienberg, Rheinland, Preussen, S-LDS
Anna Maria TRENCK - Christening: 4 Dec 1785 Evangelisch, Marggrabowa, Ostpreussen, Preussen, S-LDS
Anne Marie TRENCK - Birth: 15 May 1808 Vital, Adendorf, Rheinland, Preussen, S-LDS
Anton TRENCK - Marriage: 28 Nov 1868 First German Presbyterian Church Rivington Street, New York, New York, New York, S-LDS
August von der Trenck m. Eleonore Albertine "Nanny" von der Goltz b. 1811 d. 1890, dau. of Erhard Friedrich Otto Albrecht von der Goltz (b. 1776 d. 1844) and Eleonore Sophie Amalie von Schoening (b. 1776 d/ 1841) Issue: No data given. It does tell us that Eleonore m. the second time to a Hermann von Hirsch. (Source: ancestry.com / Famlie Krabbe III / owner: krabbepeter)
Casparum TRENCK - Gender: M Christening: 30 Aug 1792 Roemisch-Katholische, Adendorf, Rheinland, Preussen, S-LDS
Christian Siegismund TRENCK - Marriage: 2 Jul 1812 Jerusalem, Berlin Stadt, Brandenburg, Preussen, S-LDS
Christina TRENCK - Christening: 6 Mar 1797 Liebfrauen Katholisch, Koblenz Stadt, Rheinland, Preussen, S-LDS
Georg Ernst TRENCK - Christening: 15 May 1866 Evangelisch, Muelheim An Der Ruhr, Rheinland, Preussen, S-LDS
Note: A Hein family of Borodino / Bess. S. Russia migr. from Muelheim abt 1814
Gertrud TRENCK - Birth: 4 Jun 1803 Vital, Adendorf, Rheinland, Preussen, S-LDS
Gertrud TRENCK - Marriage: 14 Apr 1825 Vital, Adendorf, Rheinland, Preussen, S-LDS
Hans TRENCK - Christening: 3 May 1605 Breitenhain, Sachsen-Altenburg, Thuringen, S-LDS
Heinrich Wilhelm TRENCK - Marriage: 20 Jun 1858 Evangelisch, Schwerte, Westfalen, Preussen, S-LDS
Jacob TRENCK - Marriage: 29 Aug 1793 Katholisch, Stieldorf, Rheinland, Preussen, S-LDS
Jacobus TRENCK - Gender: M Christening: 23 Nov 1804 Sankt Kastor Katholisch, Koblenz Stadt, Rheinland, Preussen, S-LDS
Jan Hendrik TRENCK - Gender: M Marriage: 2 Nov 1796 Burgerlijke Administratie, Arnhem, Gelderland, Netherlands, S-LDS
Johann Jacob TRENCK - Christening: 11 Aug 1761 Evangelisch, Bielefeld, Westfalen, Preussen, S-LDS
Johann Bernard TRENCK - Marriage: 18 Jan 1765 Evangelisch, Sprockhoevel, Westfalen, Preussen, S-LDS
Joannes Wilhelmus TRENCK - Christening: 22 Nov 1765 Katholisch, Rheinberg, Rheinland, Preussen, S-LDS
Joannes Wilhelmus TRENCK -Christening: 17 Mar 1805 Roemische Katholische, Aegidienberg, Rheinland, Preussen, S-LDS
Johannes Paulus TRENCK -Christening: 4 Apr 1795 Roemisch-Katholische, Adendorf, Rheinland, Preussen, S-LDS
Josephus TRENCK - Christening: 20 Sep 1807 Roemische Katholische, Aegidienberg, Rheinland, Preussen, S-LDS
Maguns TRENCK - Gender: M Birth: 23 Feb 1828 Smaland, , Sweden, S-LDS
Margaretha TRENCK - Christening: 28 Aug 1793 Roemisch-Katholische, Adendorf, Rheinland, Preussen, S-LDS
Margaretha TRENCK - Marriage: 17 Sep 1829 Vital, Adendorf, Rheinland, Preussen, S-LDS
Maria Anna TRENCK - Christening: 27 Oct 1801 Liebfrauen Katholisch, Koblenz Stadt, Rheinland, Preussen, S-LDS
Marie Elisabeth TRENCK - Christening: 17 Aug 1832 Sankt Petri, Berlin Stadt, Brandenburg, Preussen, S-LDS
Maria Ernestina Walburga TRENCK - Marriage: 6 Jun 1863 Liebfrauen Katholisch, Koblenz Stadt, Rheinland, Preussen, S-LDS
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Anna Wilhelmine VON DER TRENCK - Birth: 9 Nov 1848 Lyck, E-Prss., Preussen, S-LDS
Baron Friedrich VON DER TRENCK - Birth: 1726 Of, , Preussen, S-LDS
Eleonore Natalie Friederike von der Trenck b. 3 June 1830 Insterburg / East Prussia d. Koenigsbuerg m. Alfred Bernhard Victor von Sanden , son of Johann Bernhard Gottfried von Sanden (1767 d. 1815) and Dorothea Reina Korella (Kurella) (b. 1774 d. 1813). (source: gw.geneanet.org) Issue:
Elisabeth Christiane VON DER TRENCK - Birth: 26 Feb 1855 Norkitten, E-Prss., Preussen, S-LDS
Elisabeth Christiane VON DER TRENCK - Marriage: 20 Apr 1875 Neu Ulm, Schwaben, Bayern, S-LDS
Ferdinand Heinrich Alexander VON DER TRENCK - Birth: 25 Nov 1813 Adamsheide, E-Prss., Preussen, S-LDS
Ferdinand Heinrich Alexander VON DER TRENCK Birth: 25 Nov 1813 Adamsheide, E-Prss., Preussen Father: Karl Georg Friedrich VON DER TRENCK Mother: Wilhelmine VON TYSZKA Source Information: Film Number:537730 Page Number:34Reference Number: 27568, S-LDS
Gerdrud VON DER TRENCK - Christening: 29 Sep 1746 Evangelisch, Ratingen, Rheinland, Preussen, S-LDS
Karl Ludwig von der Trenck d. 28 Nov 1836 Insterburg, was "Justiz-Kommissar zu Insterburg" m. 19 Oct 1819 Tussainen to Mathilde Bernhardine von Sanden b. 23 Jan 1802 Althof-Ragnit d. 13 Oct 1871 Launingken, age 69, dau. of Johann Berhard Gottfried von Sanden (b. 1767 d. 1815) and Doroehta Regina Korella (Kurella) b. 1774 d. 1813. Her brother was Alfred Bernhard Victor von Sanden who m. Eleonore Natalie Friederike von der Trenck. See Eleonore von der Trenck.
Marie Von Der TRENCK - Birth/Christening: Abt 1461 in Steinort, Prussia, S-LDS
Maria von der Trenck m. Hans von Proeck d. bef 1535, son of Hans von Proeck b. abt 1411. (Source: gw.geneanet.org) Issue:
Valeska VON DER TRENCK - Gender: F Birth: 28 Jan 1839 Arnsdorf, Germany, S-LDS
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In a message dated 9/3/03 6:07:58 PM, turkii@excite.com writes:
<< Dear RemMick@aol.com, First let me introduce myself as someone trying to research his family's history. I came upon your email address while researching Baron Frederick von der Trenck (b. 2/17/1726), who I believe I may be a descendant of. So far, the web pages you have published have provided me with more information about the von der Trenck family than anything else. Unfortunately I've been coming up short with any further research and can't find information on descendants of Frederick other than his sons. Do you, by any chance, have any information on any grandson that Frederick von der Trenck had? I think that my grandmother once told me that I am a descendant of Frederick from his second marriage with Maria de Broe, but I don't have any other information. If you knew anything else about Frederick's grandchildren it could greatly help me possibly connect myself to him. Thank you for your time, Michael TrenckConnecticut
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Letter:
In a message dated 8/23/04 4:34:48 PM, pragst@bellsouth.net writes:
Desar Lady Remmick,
Tammy tells me she and you collaborated a bit on the Trenkmann geneology. I looked it up and was happy to learn more about my father's family. His name is Edward Trenkmann, Sr. My brother, who is a year younger than I, has the same name but "Jr." at the end.
My name is Suzanne. I know my father was one of nine. He came over in l868. Apparently a Robert Trenkmann came over the year before who had a son with his wife, Phillipina. He helped my grandfather run some rental property. My Grandfather married into a family that owned some buildings. When Grandfather August died, his wife, Wilhelmina , incorporated the business. It is still family operated today.
My mother's name was Marjorie Jean Scudder. She was one of the four Scudder girls from Evanston, Illinois. They descend from a Thomas Scudder who came over on the Arabella in the l630's when it took months to get here before the steam engine. Your later reference to "Scunner " has her confused with another. We think Scudder is probably originally a Dutch name. Just as here, they had to get to England from somewhere else.
My daughters (5) and I are very impressed with having a Royal Princess such as Anna Amalie Hohenzollern and Count von der Trenck as ggg Grandparents. It all seems to make a lot of sense. Two of my pregnancies were twins. Altogether I have ten children.
Only one so far has visited Europe. At the time, the wall was still up and our relatives mentioned relatives on the other side. Next time, they will hopefully have more freedom. It was nice that you got there, but how sad a place. I hope you saw the family castle in Pottsdam.
Cordiall,y your no longer lost cousin, Suzanne T. Prager
Letter#
To Judy Remmick-Hubert
From Kurt Trenkmann, son of Ed Trenkmann Jr.
who was son of Ed Trenkmann Sr. who was son of August Trenkmann.
I've been working on my genealogy -
Most of it is completed, I'm missing afew facts:
UNKNOWN: mother of Johann Andreas Trenkmann (Johann's father was Friedrch von der Trenck).
UNKOWN: Year of death of Johann Andreas Trenkmann.
Also curious as to why/how name change occurred from von der Trenck to Trenkmann.
I've been using about 8 sources two of which you might be interested in:
1) Friedrich von der Trenck's autobiography.
2) book entitled; "Trenck" by Bruno Frank written 1928.
I am know searching for biographies of Friedrich von der Trenck.
A 2002 Eurpoean movie was released on life of Friedrich von der Trenck.
As an aside, my father visited Paris afew years ago.
He stated that on a cool day, he walked towards the guillotine area where Friedrcih met
his fate; my dad broke out into a cold nervous sweat. He walked away & felt better.
He again walked towards the guillotine area & experienced the same cold nervous sweat.
I have attached a Lotus file of my reseach; birth & death dates/locations.
Thank you for your time.
Kurt Trenkmann
Achpub2@aol.com
Letter #__
In a message dated 11/15/05 9:31:37 AM, Achpub2 writes:
Judy-
I've been working with Tammy Trenkmann.
Appears Karl Robert Trenkmann, born 1834 is NOT a son of Johann Heinrich Ludwig Trenkmann - we're still working on this.
You can enter my name as web informant.
I will send you an updated family tree diagram when available.
Thanks,
Kurt Trenkmann
Achpub2@aol.com
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Dear Judy- I am the daughter of Suzanne Trenckmann. Please correct her marriages. She was 1st married to my father, Robert Jay Seymour in 1948. They had seven children which includes me. She later married Henry Harasymzuk, and then Prager. I had discovered your website a couple years ago and was pleasantly surprised with all the info, but the connection between Frederick Trenck and Johann Andreas Trenckmann seems sketchy, especially with the mother unknown. Trenck states in his autobiography that he did not believe in casual affairs with women. So Johann's mother would have been someone significant in his life?
Thank you, Carol Seymour Ohmen
In a message dated 7/6/06 8:35:33 PM, mctrenkmann@gmail.com writes:
Dear Judy,
I realize this is a minor point, but I'd very much like my father to be added to the Trenkmann family tree on your website (linked below). My father was Stephen Anthony Trenkmann (b. 1947? d. 1980), son of Richard J. Trenkmann, and brother of Richard S. Trenkmann and Pamela E. Trenkmann.
http://www.remmick.org/Hohenzollern.Royal/PageTrenck2.html
I also wanted to say thank you for taking the time to compile all of the family information on a central source.
Best regards,
#Letter 2
Judy,
I confirmed it with my mom that 1947 is the correct year of birth for my dad. If you don't mind updating, following is the information for the rest of my immediate family:
My mother: Patricia J Clayton - B. ____;
My brother: Stephen R. Trenkmann - B. 1974, D. 1980; and
My brother: Bradley M. Trenkmann - B. 1975, D. 1980.
I was born in ____
Again, thank you for all of your hard work,
Michael Trenkmann
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