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BCloss [Kloss] Family

Following data is from Karen, nee Weisenburger, Abel who is working with Ralph Wiseman.  The data is from Lutheran Church Records of Moersfeld and Kriegsfeld / Kirschheimbolanden, Pfalz [Palatinate], Germany.  

Thank you for sharing with all of us. 

Gen. 1

Maria Catharina Engel [Engelica, Angelica] Closs

  • dau. of Johannes Closs and Anna Elisabetha Orschied
  • b. 1734 Moersfeld / Kirscheinbolanded, Palatinate [Pfalz], Germany [correction 21 May 2002]
  • confirmed 1749 (age 15) Moersfeld 
  • d.
  • m.   ___ Austria-Hungary poss. in or near Torschau / Banat

Johann Philipp Pfaff [smilecorrection 1 Mar 2002 FHL Film #193924 for Kriegsfeld/Moersfeld)

  • son of _____NN [not known]
  • b. 21 Sept 1733 Moersfeld, Kirchheim-Bolanden, Palatainate [Pfalz], Germany
  • d
  • m. (2)  Philippine Elizabeth ______b.bef 1743 poss Niederhausen am Rhine-Baden, Germany  (PE)d. abt. 1790 Torschau, Batschka [Ungarn], Austria-Hungary
  • m. (3)  abt 1790  [poss 17891 Hungary #1761167] to widow  Christine Ottmer  b.  poss. 12 March 1782  Zwerenberg, Wu.  d. poss 18 Nov 1862 Freudental #1884099/3 5  [ See letter from jmeeuwig]
  • m. (1)
  • Issue:
  1. Maria Pfaff , 55,  b. ca. 1760 m. Wilhelm Erps
  2. Johann Peter Pfaff , b. 22 April  1761 at Morsfeld / Kircheimbolanden , baptised 26 Apr 1761,  d. 5 May 1836, m. (1) Philippine Elizabeth  ______; m. (2) Christina ______  
  3. Johanna Maria Pfaff, b. 9 March 1764 at Morsfeld/Kircheimbolanden d. Sept 1765 Moersfeld
  4. Johan Michael Pfaff b. 28 August 1766 at Morsfeld/Kircheimbolanden d. bef 1833 poss. in or near Freudental Od. S. Russia, m. Sybilla _____ , bef. 1798
  5. Philippina Elisabetha Pfaff, b. 16 October 1768 at Moersfeld/Kircheimbolanden, d. 12 January 1769 Moersfeld / Kirchseimbolanden
  6. Eva Barbara Pfaff, b. 7 January 1770 at Morsfeld/Kircheimbolanden
  7. Conrad Peter Pfaff, b. December 1772 at Morsfeld/Kircheimbolanden
  8. Susanna Katharina Pfaff, b. 2 February 1776 at Morsfeld/Kircheimbolanden, d. 2 May 1782

See Family In More Detail

Gen. 2
Johannes Closs
  • b. 12 Feb 1696 Moersfeld / near Alzey-Worms and Kircheimbolanden [Kirschhein-Bolanden], (Rheinland-)Palatinate [Pfalz]
  • d. 2 July 1762 Moersfeld/Palatinate
  • listed occupation: master weaver ["webermeister"]
  • m. 12 Jan 1723 Moersfeld to

Anna Elisabetha Orschied

  • dau. of Chris. Orschied and NN
  • b. abt Jan 1701
  • d. 10 June 1773 Moersfeld / Palatinate
  • Issue:
    1. Johann Peter Closs b. ?  d.? m. 15 Oct 1748 Moersfeld
    2. Maria Angelica Closs b. 9 July 1726 Moersfeld d. 27 April 1729 Moersfeld
    3. Anna Catharina Closs b. 30 Oct 1728 Moersfeld
    4. Gen. 1: Maria Engel Closs b. abt 1734 Moersfeld /Kirschheim-Bolanden, Pfalz [Germany] d. Moersfeld / Palatinate, Bavaria m. Johannes Philipp Pfaff
    5. Johanna Helena Closs b. 10 Sept 1736 Moersfeld confirmed 1752 m. 8 Feb 1763  Moersfeld/Palatinate, Bavariato Johann Michael Wolff
    6. Maria Magdalenna Closs b. 23 May 1739 Moersfeld
Gen. 3
Hans Wendel Closs
  • son of Hans Jacob Closs
  • b  1615.
  • d. 1691
  • m. 28 Jan 1691 Moersfeld / Kirschheimbolanded, Palatinate

Gertraut Pfannkuchen

  • dau. of Johann Jost Pfannkuchen and Dorothea ____ b. abt 1639  d. 29 Nov 1684
  • b. 27 April 1673 Moersfeld
  • d. 12 Jan 1733 Moersfeld
  • Issue:
    1. Johann Nickel  Closs, born 24 Feb 1692 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    2. Peter  Closs, born 21 Nov 1693 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    3. Johannes Closs, born 12 Feb 1696 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern; died 2 Jul 1762 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    4. Hans Laurentz  Closs, born 10 Apr 1698 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    5. Anna Magdalena  Closs, born 1 Apr 1700 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    6. Anna Margaretha Closs, born 2 Mar 1702 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    7. Hans Adam Closs, born 14 Jun 1705 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    8. Hans Christophel'  Closs, born 27 Mar 1709 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    9. Anna Maria Catharina Closs, born 15 Apr 1712 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
Gen. 4
Hans Jacob Closs [Class, Klass, Kloss]
  • b.  1615 
  • d. bef. 1691
  • m. to

Anna Catharina Braun. dau. of Hans Adam Braun (b. 1599 Schellweiler / Rheinland-Pfalz [Germany] ) d. 2 April 1669 Shellweiler / Kusel, Rheinland-Pfalz [Germany]) and Margaretha  __NN__(b. 1605)

  • b.1647 Schellweiler / Rheinland-Pfalz [Germany] ) d. 2 April 1669 Shellweiler / Kusel, Rheinland-Pfalz [Germany])
  • d. 1723
  • Issue:
    1. Hans Wendel Closs
    2. Others?

BORSCHIED / Orschiedt / Orschitt  FAMILY #1

Gen. 1.
Anna Elisabetha Orschied
  • dau. of Chris. Orschied and NN
  • b. abt Jan 1701
  • d. 10 June 1773 Moersfeld / Palatinate, [Bavaria], [Germany]
  • m. 12 Jan 1723 Moersfeld (NOTE: m. same date as her brother Johann Peter Orschied) to

Johannes Closs

  • b. 12 Feb 1696 Moersfeld/Kircheimbolanden [Kirschhein-Bolanden], Palatinate [Pfalz], Bavaria [Bayern]
  • listed occupation: master weaver ["webermeister"]
  • d. 2 July 1762 Moersfeld/Palatinate, Bavaria
  • d. 10 June 1773 Moersfeld / Palatinate, Bavaria
  • Issue:
    1. Johann Peter Closs b. ?  d.? m. 15 Oct 1748 Moersfeld
    2. Maria Angelica Closs b. 9 July 1726 Moersfeld d. 27 April 1729 Moersfeld
    3. Anna Catharina Closs b. 30 Oct 1728 Moersfeld
    4. Gen. 1: Maria Engel Closs b. abt 1734 Moersfeld /Kirschheim-Bolanden, Pfalz [Germany] d. Moersfeld / Palatinate, Bavaria m. Johannes Philipp Pfaff
    5. Johanna Helena Closs b. 10 Sept 1736 Moersfeld confirmed 1752 m. 8 Feb 1763  Moersfeld/Palatinate, Bavariato Johann Michael Wolff
    6. Maria Magdalenna Closs b. 23 May 1739 Moersfeld
Gen. 2
Chris Orschied m. __N.N.__Issue:
  1. Anna Elisabetha Orschield b. abt Jan 1701 d. 10 June 1773 Moersfeld / Palatinate, [Germany]
  2. Johann Peter Orscheid b.  ____  m. 12 Jan 1723 (same date as his sister) to Anna Barbara Wentz

Ills. #1

Ills. #2

Both Ills #1 and Ills. #2  were sent to be by Patty Pantelaldis who through her cousin in Germany found these records:

April 27, 2010:

>>Hi Remmick --just to let you know that I found the marriage records of Elisabetha Orschied and ...one of her brother Johann Peter to Anna Barbara  Wentz on 12 of Jan  1723

Here is the English translation ...Johann  Peter's was one page and Johannes Closs on the next, they they were both under the same date, 12 Jan 1723-

"Also the...in Morsefeld was wedded Johann Peter Orschiedt, Christ Orschiedts legitimate son and Anna Barabara, Johannes Wentzes from Morsefeld legitimate daughter.

Also the ..in Morsefeld were wedded Johannes Closs, Wendel Closses legitmate son and Elisabatha, Christ Orschiedts legitimate daughter"

So there we have the proof hat Peter and Elisabetha are siblings.<<

BORSCHIED / Orschiedt / Orschitt  FAMILY #2
Gen. 1

Magdalena Orschitt  [Orschied / Orschiedt) of Freudental/ Od. b. before 1824  poss Freudental / Od. m. Heinrich Jacob Geisler  / Geissler / Geiszler  b. about or before 1824   Issue:

  1.  Elizabeth Friedericka Geissler  Film #1882636 / 1 333 106 EL., PBN:66 m. 12 March 1865 to Friederick Jacob Pfaff b. 17 Feb 1843  d. 1885
    • m. (1)
    • 1. Juliana Pfaff, b. 20 April 1863 at Neu Freudental
    • 2. Friedrich Pfaff, b. 13 December 1864 at Neu Freudental, d. 7 August 1865 at Neu Freudental
    • m. (2)
    • 3. son [Friedrich]
    • 4. Michael Pfaff, b. 30 October 1867 at Neu Freudental
    • 5. Karl Pfaff  b. 15 April 1870 m. Elizabeth Weber
    • 6. Pauline Sm. Pauline [Bulena] Pfaff b. 1 April 1872  Pfaff Chutor Worms, Od. S. Russia d. 10 Nov. 1955 Medina, ND, USA bur. Streeter, ND, m. Jacob Roemmich of Worms / Od. S. Russia b. 28 April 1877 Worms, Odessa, S. Russia, son of Jacob Roemmich b.  1851  and Katharina Mauch. Click on name above for more details on her marriage and family members.  Family migrated to Streeter, ND, USA  in 1906
    • 7. Christine Pfaff b. 28 Dec. 1873  Pfaff Chutor  d. 1 Sept. 1954 Jamestown, ND USA m. 26 Oct 1897 to Ludwig Ebel. b. 11 Nov 1869 Worms / n. Odessa, S. Russia d. 11 May 1931 Jamestown / Stutsman Co., ND, USA XXX(Ancestry.com / Ebel Family Tree / owner: fracesebel) Migr. to USA 23 April 1898. Migrated from Worms /Od in 1898 on the 23rd of  April to USA  Issue:
      • John Ebel b. 1899 m. Katharina Wiest
      • Minnie Ebel m. Ben Eissenger
      • Lydia Ebel b. 1906 Medina, N. D. , USA m. Jack Weist
      • Samuel Ebel  m. Rose Stuckle
      • Roselia Ebel m. (1) John Fleck; m. (2) R.H. McCrea
      • Frederick Ebel m. Sally _____
    • 8. Johann  Pfaff b. 20 Jan 1874 (??) Neu Freudental/Od. S. Russia  d. 10 Dec 1877 [Note: Probably son of Friedrich Jakob Pfaff and Katharina Hust)
    • 9. Jacob Pfaff, b. 1 April 1876 at Neu Freudental
    • 10. Reichard Pfaff, b. 10 July 1878 at Neu Freudental
    • 11. Sammuel  Pfaff  b. 1 Dec 1883 Neu Freudental/ Od. S. Russia d. USA m. Elisabeth Geier b. 23 April 1886 Neu Freudental, Od. S. Russia
    • others
    • Margaretha Pfaff, b. 10 September 1885 at Freudental m. Schmalz
  2. Georg Friedrich Pfaff, b. 1 April 1845 at Neu Freudental Fim. #1882636 1 333  106 EL., PBN:66
  3. Reinhard Pfaff, b. 26 June 1847 at Neu Freudental m. 17 Nov 1870 Neu Freudental / Odessa to Elisabeth Wacker (Source: Karen's The German-Russian Pfaff Family, rootsweb) Issue:
    • Reinhard Pfaff b. 28 Aptil 1871 Neu Freudental , Od., S. Russia d. 1 May 1871 Neu Freudental / Od. S. Russia
    • Catharine Pfaff b. 14 July 1874 d. 11 Aug 1875 Neu Freudental / Od. S. Russia
Gen. 2
Research:

#1  Source: ancestry.com / ruussland / owner: brumar196

Johann Orschitt b. 1770 Ugarn  Issue:

Heinrich Jakob Orschitt b. 1803 m. Magdalena Geissler Issue:

  1. Konrad Orschitt b. 17 Jan 1839 Neu Freudental / Odessa, S. Russia m. Margarethe Neher b. 23 April 1838 Freduental Odessa, dau.  of Lorenz Neher (b. 12 Nov 1791 Duerrwagen / __, Wuerttemberg [Germany]) and Beate Seigele  (b. 19 Sept. 1799)  
  2. Heinrich Orschitt b. 1843

JARH Note: I have another Orscheid or Orschitt ancestor.
Additional information:

Heinrich  Jakob Oschitt b. 1803  d. Freudental / Od, son of Johann Orschitt  (b. 1770)   m. Magdaelna Geissler (Source: ancestry.com / russland / owner: brumar196) Issue:

  1. Konad Orschitt b. 1839 m. 22 Nov 1862 Margarethe Nehr b. 1838 Freudental / Od, dau. of Lorenz Neher (b. 1791 Duerrwaen / Wuerttemberg) and Beate Siegele (b. 1799)
  2. Heinrich Orschitt b. 1843 m. 18 April 1876 to Rosalie Reister
See tout  other  Orschiett  ancestors:

Magdalena Orschitt   b. before 1825 of Freudental/ Od. m. to Heinrich Jacob Geisler (Geissler / Geizler) b. about or before 1824

BPFANNNKUCHEN FAMILY

Gen. 1
Gertraut Pfannkuchen
  • dau. of Johann Jost Pfannkuchen and Dorothea ____ b. abt 1639  d. 29 Nov 1684
  • b. 27 April 1673 Moersfeld
  • d. 12 Jan 1733 Moersfeld
  • m. Jan 1691 Moersfeld / Kirschheimbolanded, Palatinate

Hans Wendel Closs

  • son of Hans Jacob Closs
  • b.
  • d.
  • Issue:
    1. Johann Nickel  Closs, born 24 Feb 1692 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    2. Peter  Closs, born 21 Nov 1693 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    3. Johannes Closs, born 12 Feb 1696 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern; died 2 Jul 1762 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    4. Hans Laurentz  Closs, born 10 Apr 1698 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    5. Anna Magdalena  Closs, born 1 Apr 1700 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    6. Anna Margaretha Closs, born 2 Mar 1702 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    7. Hans Adam Closs, born 14 Jun 1705 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    8. Hans Christophel'  Closs, born 27 Mar 1709 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    9. Anna Maria Catharina Closs, born 15 Apr 1712 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
Gen. 2
Johann Jost Pfannkuchen
  • d.
  • d.
  • occupation:  Schultheis (mayor) of Moersfeld
  • m.

Dorothea_______

  • born abt 1639; died 29 Nov 1684 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern
  • Issue:
    1. Anna Barbara Pfannkuchen, born 21 Aug 1664 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern
    2. Peter Pfannkuchen, born 26 Apr 1668 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern
    3. Gertraut Pfannkuchen, born 27 Apr 1673 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern; died 12 Jan 1733 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern
    4. Johann Philipp Pfannkuchen, born abt 1678; died 17 Sep 1746 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern. NOTE Marriage record in 1704 indicated that he was the son of Hans Jost Pfannkuchen.
    5. Elisabetha Pfannkuchen, born 11 Mar 1683 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    6. Heinrich Pfannkuchen, born Dec 1680 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern

Also see Remmick's Palatinate History and Maps

They were believed as ancestors, but they were not, however, I've left them on this page for those who are researching Engle family.
Andreas Engle
  • b. 1711 Kriegsfeld / Kirschheimbolanden, Palatinate, Germany
  • d. 1790 Moersfeld/ Kirschheimbolanden, Palainate, Germany
  • Occupation: "Bildweber" [Picture Weaver] in Moersfeld
  • m. (2) 1759 Moersfeld  to Maria Appolonia ____
  • m. (1)

Anna Catherina _____

  • b.
  • d.26 Dec 1756 Moersfeld / Korschheimbolanded, Palatinate, Germany
  • Issue:
    1. Johan Heinrich  Engle b. 27 April 1738 Moersfeld  d. 17 March 1740 Moersfeld
    2. Johann Philipp Engle b. 3 Zpril 1740 Moersfeld
    3. Maria Catharina Engel
    4. Anna Catharina Engel b. 6 May 1744  Moersfeld
    5. Anna Appolonia Engel b. 29 May 1747 Moersfeld
    6. Johann Christoph Engel b. 17 Aril 1750 Moersfeld
B Nehr Family Information:
Gen. 1

Margarethe Neher b. 23 April 1838 Freduental Odessa m. Konrad Orschitt b. 17 Jan 1839 Neu Freudental / Odessa, S. Russia , son of Heinrich  Jaskob Orschitt b. 1803 and Magdalena Geissler

Gen. 2

Lorenz Neher (b. 12 Nov 1791 Duerrwagen / __, Wuerttemberg [Germany]), son of ___see  Gen. 3___  m. (1)  1812 to Katharina Elisabeth Meier b. 1793 d. 1837   ; m. (2) 5 Sept 1837 to  Beate Seigele  (b. 19 Sept. 1799)  Issue:

  • m. (1)  Issue:
    1. Johannes Neher b. 1813 d. 1883
    2. Anna Elisabeth Neher b. 1815
    3. Katharina Barbara Neher b. 2 Sept 1816 Freudental / Odessa, S.  Russia  d. March 1881  m.  2 Jan 1836 to Friedrich Pfaff b. 10 Nov 1811 Freudental / Odessa  d. 15 Feb 1880, son of Philip Peter Pfaff (b. 2 Dec 1787 Torschau / Austria-Hungary  d. 21 Sept 1853 Freduental / Odessa, S. Russia) and Barbara Ebs (b. 1790)
      • Johann Wilhelm Pfaff b. 16 Aug 1836 Freudental / Odessa d. 1916 m. 23 Jan 1858 to Katharina Wiedmeier b. 1 June 1837 Freudental / Odessa S. Russia  d. 23 Dec 1918 Washington, USA, dau. of Johann Georg Wiedmeier (b.  20 Jan 1799 Wuerttemberg  d. 16 Feb 1860 Neu Freudental / Odessa, S. Russia ) and Dorothea Elisabeth Stolz (b. 1803 d. 10 Dec 1845 Ne Freudenal / Odessa) .  Issue:
        • Elisabeth Pfaff b. 26 March 1862 Freudental / Odessa   d. 1 April 1924 m. Christian Oster b. 6 July 1858 Freudetnal / Odessa, S. Russia  d. 30 July 1928, son of Jakob Oser b. 1837 d. 1912) and Christine Friedrike Goll (b. 1839)
        • Friedrich Pfaff b. 18 Feb 1864 Freudental / Odessa  d. 10 Nov 1939 m. Christine Oster b. 1868
        • Johann Pfaff b. 17 Feb 1878 Freudental / Dessa, S. Russia  d. 18 March 1959 Washington, USA m. 1902 to Elisabeth Becker b. 21 Dec 1879 ___/ Odessa, S. Russia  d. 1848 Washington , USA  XX
      • Friederike Pfaff b. 1845
    4. Ludwig Neher b. 1825
    5. Lorenz Heher b. 1828
    6. Jakob Heher b. 1830
  • m. (2)  Issue:
    1. Margaretha Neher b. 23 April 1838 Freudental m. 22 Nov 1862 to Konrad Orschitt
    2. Barbar Heher b. 1845

Gen. 3

Johann Ludwig Neher b. 1 Sept 1762 Duerrwagen / __ Wu. d. Torschau / Austria-Hungary   m. 25 June 1788 to Margarethe Schlangenhauf b. 31 Aug 1766 Duerrwagen / __, Wuerttemberg d. Torschau, dau. of __NN__  Issue:

  1. Lorenz Neher (b. 12 Nov 1791 Duerrwagen / __, Wuerttemberg [Germany]) m. (1)  1812 to Katharina Elisabeth Meier b. 1793 d. 1837   ; m. (2) 5 Sept 1837 to  Beate Seigele  (b. 19 Sept. 1799)

Gen. 4

Lorenz Nehr b. 1747 Duerrwagnen, Wu  m. Agnes Katharina Merz b. 1747 Duerrwagen , Wu  Issue:

  1. Johann Ludwig Neher b. 1 Sept 1762 Duerrwagen / __ Wu.   m. Margarethe Schlangenhauf b. 1766